The issues concerning the Birds in the Bible are:1) The Birds are Detestable and intolerable, 2) The Purification of man is achieved by the Birds’ blood, 3) Sparrow and swallow are symbols of the curse, 4) A new method for Education is to ask the birds, 5) Do not revile the king even in your thoughts, or curse the rich in your bedroom” because the birds are spying out on you, and 6) The Birds have four legs, a statement that contradicts with the science.
The issues concerning the Birds in the Quran are: 1)What are the Birds, 2)The Birds and the Famous Prophets (Abraham, Joseph, David, Solomon and the Lord Jesus), 3) The Birds beat a Christian Army, 4) The Birds and the unbelievers and 5)The Birds and the believers in the afterlife.
Upon reading the Birds in Bible versus Quran, the smart just reader can easily answer this dogmatic question:” Is the Quran quoted or borrowed from the Bible?”
Before dealing with the topic of the Birds in Quran versus Bible versus sciences, it is essential to remember that the total words of the Bible are 788,280 while total words of the Quran are 77,473. It follows that, the Bible has the potential of more than 10 times the Quran to talk about the Birds word-wise.
The Birds mentioned 129 times in the Bible and 17 times in the Quran.
The Birds in the Bible:
The Detestable and intolerable Birds
Leviticus 11
13 ” ‘These are the birds you are to detest and not eat because they are detestable: the eagle, the vulture, the black vulture, 14 the red kite, any kind of black kite, 15 any kind of raven, 16 the horned owl, the screech owl, the gull, any kind of hawk, 17 the little owl, the cormorant, the great owl, 18 the white owl, the desert owl, the osprey, 19 the stork, any kind of heron, the hoopoe and the bat.
21 There are, however, some winged creatures that walk on all fours that you may eat: those that have jointed legs for hopping on the ground.
22 Of these you may eat any kind of locust, katydid, cricket or grasshopper.
23 But all other winged creatures that have four legs you are to detest.
24 ” ‘You will make yourselves unclean by these; whoever touches their carcasses will be unclean till evening.
25 Whoever picks up one of their carcasses must wash his clothes, and he will be unclean till evening.
Clean and unclean Birds:
Leviticus 11:46
” ‘These are the regulations concerning animals, birds, every living thing that moves in the water and every creature that moves about on the ground.
47 You must distinguish between the unclean and the clean, between living creatures that may be eaten and those that may not be eaten.’ “
Leviticus 20:25
” ‘You must therefore make a distinction between clean and unclean animals and between unclean and clean birds. Do not defile yourselves by any animal or bird or anything that moves along the groundâ??those which I have set apart as unclean for you.
The Purification of man is achieved by the Birds’ blood.
Leviticus 14:5
Then the priest shall order that one of the birds be killed over fresh water in a clay pot.
Leviticus 14:52
He shall purify the house with the bird’s blood, the fresh water, the live bird, the cedar wood, the hyssop and the scarlet yarn.
Sparrow and swallow are symbols of the curse
Proverbs 26
1 Like snow in summer or rain in harvest,
honor is not fitting for a fool.
2 Like a fluttering sparrow or a darting swallow,
an undeserved curse does not come to rest.
A new method for Education is to ask the birds.
Job 12:7
“But ask the animals, and they will teach you, or the birds of the air, and they will tell you;
Freedom of speech is “Do not revile the king even in your thoughts, or curse the rich in your bedroom”
Why? Because the birds are spying out on you…
What if the king or the rich is evil? Can not we criticize them?
Ecclesiastes 10:20
Do not revile the king even in your thoughts, or curse the rich in your bedroom, because a bird of the air may carry your words, and a bird on the wing may report what you say.
Why the God love is going to do that?
Deuteronomy 28:26
Your carcasses will be food for all the birds of the air and the beasts of the earth, and there will be no one to frighten them away.
Jeremiah 15:3
“I will send four kinds of destroyers against them,” declares the LORD, “the sword to kill and the dogs to drag away and the birds of the air and the beasts of the earth to devour and destroy.
Jeremiah 7:33
Then the carcasses of this people will become food for the birds of the air and the beasts of the earth, and there will be no one to frighten them away.
Zephaniah 1:3
“I will sweep away both men and animals; I will sweep away the birds of the air and the fish of the sea. The wicked will have only heaps of rubble when I cut off man from the face of the earth,” declares the LORD.
Birds with four legs:
This statement is mentioned in Leviticus 11:20
Herein, I will give you the different translations of this verse:
New International Version
“All flying insects that walk on all fours are to be detestable to you.”
King James Version
“All fowls that creep, going upon all four, shall be an abomination unto you.”
New American Standard Bible
“All the winged insects that walk on all fours are detestable to you.”
Darby Translation
“Every winged crawling thing that goeth upon all four shall be an abomination unto you.”
The translation of my Arabic bible is:
“All the birds that walk on all fours are to be detestable to you”.
Can any one show me where in the earth we can find a single bird with four legs. The Bible says there are winged creatures (birds or insects) that go around on all fours. There are no birds that go around on four legs, and all insects have six legs.
This verse contradicts with the sciences.
The Birds in the Quran
Birds are mentioned 17 times in the Quran
The issues concerning the Birds in the Quran are:
1) What are the Birds
2) The Birds and the Famous Prophets (Abraham, Joseph, David, Solomon and the Lord Jesus)
3) The Birds beat a Christian Army
4) The Birds and the unbelievers
5) The Birds in the afterlife.
What are the Birds?
Surah 6:38
“There is not an animal (that lives) on the earth, nor a being that flies on its wings, but (forms part of) communities like you. Nothing have We omitted from the Book, and they (all) shall be gathered to their Lord in the end.”
Surah 16:79
“Do they not look at the birds, held poised in the midst of (the air and) the sky? Nothing holds them up but (the power of) Allah. Verily in this are Signs for those who believe.”
Surah 24:41
“Seest thou not that it is Allah Whose praises all beings in the heavens and on earth do celebrate, and the birds (of the air) with wings outspread? Each one knows its own (mode of) prayer and praise. And Allah knows well all that they do.”
Surah 67:19
“Do they not observe the birds above them, spreading their wings and folding them in? None can uphold them except (Allah) Most Gracious: truly it is He that watches over all things.”
These verses define the Birds and give the following statements:
- The Birds are communities like mankind.
- The flying birds of the air with wings outspreads are among the signs of Allah, The Almighty Creator
- The birds spreading their wings and folding them in are among the signs of Allah, The Almighty Creator.
- It should be emphasized that the Quran never said that there is a detestable bird(s).
Abraham and the Birds:
Surah 2:260
“Behold! Ibrahim said: “My Lord! Show me how Thou givest life to the dead.” He said: “Dost thou not then believe?” He said: “Yea! but to satisfy my own understanding.” He said: “Take four birds; tame them to turn to thee; put a portion of them on every hill, and call to them; they will come to thee, (flying) with speed. Then know that Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise.”
In this verse, Allah showed Abraham how to give life to the DEAD. This meaning is not found in the Bible.
Joseph (The Son of Jacob) and the Birds:
Surah 12:36
Now with him there came into the prison two young men. Said one of them: “I see myself (in a dream) pressing wine.” Said the other: “I see myself (in a dream) carrying bread on my head, and birds are eating thereof.” “Tell us” (they said) “the truth and meaning thereof: for we see thou art one that doth good (to all).”
Surah 12:41
“O my two companions of the prison! as to one of you, he will pour out the wine for his lord to drink: as for the other, he will hang from the cross, and the birds will eat from off his head. (So) hath been decreed that matter whereof ye twain do enquire.”
These are the dreams that have been seen by the two companions of the prison while Joseph was in jail. Joseph interpreted the dreams and told them that one of the two will be freed up to go back to be with the king and the other will hang from the cross, and the birds will eat from off his head.
A similar story is found in the Bible in Genesis 40:19
King David and the Birds:
Surah 34:10
We bestowed Grace aforetime on David from Ourselves: “O ye Mountains! sing ye back the Praises of Allah with him! and ye birds (also)! and We made the iron soft for him;
38:19
And the birds gathered (in assemblies): all with him did turn (to Allah).
The mountains and the Birds were singing back the Praises of Allah with David.
This implication is not found in the Bible.
King Solomon and the Birds:
Surah 21:79
To Solomon We inspired the (right) understanding of the matter: to each (of them) We gave Judgment and Knowledge; it was Our power that made the hills and the birds celebrate Our praises, with David: it was We Who did (all these things).
Surah 27:16
And Solomon was David’s heir. He said: “O ye people! we have been taught the speech of birds and on us has been bestowed (a little) of all things: this is indeed Grace manifest (from Allah.)”
Surah 27:17
And before Solomon were marshaled his hosts, of Jinns and men and birds, and they were all kept in order and ranks.
Surah 27:20
And he took a muster of the Birds; and he said: “Why is it I see not the Hoopoe? Or is he among the absentees?
These verses indicate that:
- Allah made the hills and the birds celebrate Our praises, with David.
- Allah taught Solomon the speech of birds, and bestowed him of all things and his kingdom on the earth has no similar.
- Solomon had an interesting story with the Hoopoe
(Read my article about the Hoopoe in Bible and Quran).
All of these connotations are not found in the Bible.
The Lord Jesus and the Birds:
Surah 3:49
“And (appoint him) a Messenger to the Children of Israel, (with this message): “I have come to you, with a Sign from your Lord, in that I make for you out of clay, as it were, the figure of a bird, and breathe into it, and it becomes a bird by Allah’s leave: and I heal those born blind, and the lepers, and I quicken the dead, by Allah’s leave; and I declare to you what ye eat, and what ye store in your houses. Surely therein is a Sign for you if ye did believe;”
Surah 5:110
“Then will Allah say: “O ‘Jesus the son of Mary! recount My favour to thee and to thy mother. Behold! I strengthened thee with the holy spirit, so that thou didst speak to the people in childhood and in maturity. Behold! I taught thee the Book and Wisdom, the Law and the Gospel. And behold! thou makest out of clay, as it were, the figure of a bird, by My leave, and thou breathest into it, and it becometh a bird by My leave, and thou healest those born blind, and the lepers, by My leave. And behold! thou bringest forth the dead by My leave. And behold! I did restrain the Children of Israel from (violence to) thee when thou didst show them the Clear Signs, and the Unbelievers among them said: `This is nothing but evident magic”.
These two verses designate to two important miracles of the Lord Jesus that Allah gave him and both are not mentioned in the Bible.
The first is that he used to make out of clay the figure of a bird and breathe into it, and it becomes a bird by Allah’s leave
The second is that he talked to the Israelites while he was about one week old.
The Birds beat a Christian Army
Surah 105:1-5
[1] Seest thou not how thy Lord dealt with the Companions of the Elephant?
[2] Did He not make their treacherous plan go astray?
[3] And He sent against them flights of Birds,
[4] Striking them with stones of baked clay.
[5] Then did He make them like an empty field of stalks and straw, (of which the corn) has been eaten up.
At the year of the birth of the Prophet Mohammad, a strong Ethiopian Army went towards Makkah (the city of birth of Mohammad) in order to destroy the Holy Home of ALLAH (the place of pilgrim). The Arabs had no power to fight against that very big and strong army. The Arabs left Makka alone. Allah sent flights of Birds and defended His Holy House. Hundreds of birds which had never been seen before flew towards Makkah. Each bird had 3 little stones. These Birds beat the Ethiopian Army.
That year is called the year of “Elephant” because the Army brought a dozen of elephants in order to destroy the Holy House of Allah.
This story emphasizes the unlimited power of Allah Who can beat any big army with birds or microbes or viruses etc.
Of course, this story is not present in the Bible.
The Birds and the unbelievers
Surah 22:31
“Being true in faith to Allah, and never assigning partners to Him: if anyone assigns partners to Allah, he is as if he had fallen from heaven and been snatched up by birds, or the wind had swooped (like a bird on its prey) and thrown him into a far-distant place.
This is a parable of the unbeliever illustrating his loss.”
The Birds and the believers
The Birds in the afterlife
56:21
“And the flesh of fowls, any that they may desire.”
The believers in the Paradise will eat delicious flesh of fowls; cooked, presented and served according to their desire.
Now, I will let the smart fair reader to answer the dogmatic question:
Is the Quran quoted or borrowed from the Bible?
Prof.dr. Ibrahim Khalil
http://www.articlesbase.com/science-articles/the-birds-in-bible-and-quran-116524.html
#1 by halahen on July 30th, 2009
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Are these Miracles of jesus in Quran are mentioned in bible too?
109) When God said, "Jesus, son of Mary, recall My favors to you and your mother. (Recall) how I supported you by the holy spirit, made you speak to people from your cradle and when you grew up, taught you the Book, gave you wisdom, the Torah, and the Gospel. (Recall) when, by My will, you made a sculpture of a bird out of clay, blew into it, and it turned into a real bird by My Will. (Recall) how, by My will, you healed the deaf, the lepers, and raised the dead. (Recall) when you came to the Israelites in the house with clear miracles and I saved you from their mischief, even though the disbelievers among them said, "This is obviously magic
#2 by belladonna on July 30th, 2009
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Remember, the Bible was here first. Muhammad copied some storied and added some of his own things and borrowed from others too.
Muhammad is not the prophet of God
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#3 by Hellbound Ty™: Anti-Homophobia on July 30th, 2009
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Do you sincerely ask to know or to confirm your agenda?
And yes they were
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#4 by Ms. Swan SFECU on July 30th, 2009
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I don’t remember the clay bird, but the other stories are fairly accurate.
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#5 by The_Cricket: RIP Allecat on July 30th, 2009
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Not all of them. Animating a clay bird and speaking as a baby are not in the Bible.
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#6 by OPTIMYSTIC on July 30th, 2009
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Christ was accused of being in league with the devil in the Bible when he commanded evil spirits out of people. What the Qur’an states is true of many in the Christian Church today too. They ask for signs. But when they get them, they say it is witchcraft, and the devil.
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#7 by Da_webwalker on July 30th, 2009
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I agree with belladonna, the Bible’s old testament was written 2,000 years before Mohammad was even born. The so called prophet Mohammad is nothing more than a plagiarist, child molester and thief…
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#8 by yesterday on July 30th, 2009
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the quran is as accurate as harry potter or the da vinci code
when it comes to CHRIST JESUS
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#9 by Pirate AM™ on July 30th, 2009
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Notice the part about "…the Torah, and the Gospel…", the Gospel was not written when Jesus was born but it was written prior to the Quran. This would indicate that Mohamed didn’t understand what the Gospels said.
The other things are mentioned in various books of the Bible and Apocrypha, again indicating that Mohammed had some knowledge of them.
The problem is that the Gospels were written quite sometime after Jesus would have lived, so they can not be considered a eyewitness.
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#10 by Snow Globe on July 30th, 2009
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The Bible teaches about when Jesus healed people and raised them from the dead. The clay bird incident is from a manuscript that was rejected as not inspired by God. There are stories of things Jesus supposedly did as a child that don’t seem consistent with God’s purpose. The Christian Gospels have no stories of Jesus’ childhood except how he was found in the temple, discussing the scriptures with the scholars. That incident suggests that it was not normal for him to be showing any unusual powers.
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#11 by nuzhat205 on July 30th, 2009
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not all
may be few
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by the way nice question
#12 by David I on July 30th, 2009
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The two were not recorded in the Bible, of a clay bird becoming alive, and Messiah Jesus talking when he was in the cradle.
Yet, a number of things may be clearly seen here. Mohammad says here; Jesus was supported by the Holy Spirit.
And Mohammad states elsewhere that he himself is the comforter Jesus promised to send, Jesus states in John chapters 14 & 16 that the Holy Spirit is the Comforter that he would send. Thus Mohammad lied in stating that he himself was the comforter/the Holy Spirit that Jesus would send.
The claim in here that Jesus spoke to people from his cradle, yet didnt know the book until he grew up. Thus Jesus would not have been speaking truth of the word of God. While the bible states that as a child he confounded the Jewish people with his knowledge of the bible, in the temple, long before he was grown up.
Yes the bible gives the witness of Jesus healing the deaf, lepers, and raising the dead.
Mohammad did none of these things himself, nor any other miracle, nor ever heard from God, making Mohammad not a prophet, according to his own testimony.
He states Jesus learned wisdom from the Torah and the Gospel. The definition of the gospel is the death, burrial and resurrection of Jesus for our sins and salvation.
If he is using the term in the idea of the recording of the gospel, How would Jesus learn from the recording of the gospel of his life, if it had never been written yet?
Mohammad’s ‘angel’ that talked to him, had to be a fallen angel/demon of lies to claim that Jesus learned from a book that had never yet been written.
This is the same demon that told Mohammad to cut off certain peoples hands and to kill the ‘infadels, when Jesus said to love your enemies and you love yourself.
This is the same demon that told Mohammad to marry a 6 year old little girl named Aisha, along with over 10 other wives, yet told Mohammad that his followers could only marry 4 wives. Yet Jesus recorded his words about marriage;, as in Adam and Eve, one man is to marry one woman for life.
What do we expect when they wont listen to Messiah Jesus words to love/care for others as you care for yourself as well as Messiah Jesus friendship and teaching on marriage:. That Husbands are to love their wife, as I have loved you, and will lay my life down for you/will be the atoment for your sins.
This was promised by Isaiah that the Messiah would lay down his life as a lamb to forgive our sins. Isaiah 53 untampered with, would the Jewish people who this chapters says will reject the Messiah, put these things in their own Jewish Scriptures to tamper with the Scriputres?
and Messiah Jesus promise of his love speaking from heaven offering to come into our heart and be our best friend, when we ask Messiah Jesus in. Revelation 1:1 chapter 1 verse 1 & 3:19&20
So I prayed to come to know the Messiah
Messiah Jesus, help me, I am sorry for my sins, come into my heart and be my best friend, amen."
and it happened! true Salam/peace came to my soul and Messiah Jesus became my best friend and talks literally to my heart, and helps me understand the precious word of God,
What do we expect when they wont listen to Messiah Jesus words to love/care for others as you care for yourself as well as Messiah Jesus friendship and help:.
and Messiah Jesus promise of his love speaking from heaven offering to come into our heart and be our best friend, when we ask Messiah Jesus in. Revelation 1:1 chapter 1 verse 1 & 3:19&20
So I prayed to come to know the Messiah
Messiah Jesus, help me, I am sorry for my sins, come into my heart and be my best friend, amen."
and it happened! true Salam/peace came to my soul and Messiah Jesus became my best friend and talks literally to my heart, and helps me understand the precious word of God,
not the other added book Koran/Quran that tells of an ‘angel’ saying to a man over 40 years old with over 10 wives and other women slaves to be a pedophile to a 6 year old girl, and to cut off hands and even kill the infadels.
the Koran/Quran which Messiah Jesus says has plagues on any added words to his (Revelation 22)
There are others even Muslims for the most part, who tolerate extreemist Muslims, because if they dont they will have a price tag on their head. And even other Muslims if they speak up against those that take the words of Mohammad literally and fight against the ‘infadels’ or to marry 6 or 8 year old little girls as has been done even till today in Islam
Look at the murders and blowing up of each others Religious Mosques and Shrines since the January 2006 bombing of the Golden Mosque as Sunni and Shai continue bombing each others shrines and Mosques and murdering each other.
I believe Messiah Jesus who says to love/care about everyone.
I prayed help me Messiah Jesus, I am sorry for my sins, even hating others, come into my heart, be my best friend, as you promised in Revelation 3:19&20 verses.
a prophet had to hear directly from God to be a prophet and do miracles. Not from an ‘angel that told a man to kill infadels and cut off peoples hands, and stone women, and those that come to believe in the Messiah Jesus, or to marry a little 6 year old, recently an 8 year old in Islam was refused a divorce.
Why is there absolute truth and love in the Messiah Jesus and the opposite in Mohammad?
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#13 by http://www.bible-reviews.com on July 30th, 2009
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OK, step-by-step
1) (Recall) how I supported you by the holy spirit,
Yes, the Father sent the Holy Spirit to Jesus when he was baptized
2) made you speak to people from your cradle
No – not recorded in the bible.
3) when you grew up, taught you the Book, gave you wisdom, the Torah
Well, the bible does not say that the Father taught him, but it does say that his knowledge of the Scriptures was exceptional at the age of 12
4) and the Gospel
The gospels were not written until after Jesus’ death. However, this could conceivably refer to "the gospel", the teaching that Jesus gave to the Jews, which indeed he had from the Father
5) Recall) when, by My will, you made a sculpture of a bird out of clay, blew into it, and it turned into a real bird by My Will.
Not recorded in the bible – nothing even remotely similar.
6) (Recall) how, by My will, you healed the deaf, the lepers, and raised the dead.
Yes, recorded in the bible.
7) (Recall) when you came to the Israelites in the house with clear miracles and I saved you from their mischief, even though the disbelievers among them said, "This is obviously magic
Not magic, but rather they accused him of being in league with Satan and calling upon Satan’s authority to cast out demons who were possessing a man. In other words: they claimed that Satan had ordered these demons to obey Jesus. This is the only time he was accused of performing miracles by anything other than the power of God. Others are accused of using magic, including a certain bar-Jesus (son of Jesus) but not Jesus. Note, also, that "Jesus" was a very common name, as common as Joshua is today among Jews – so you should read nothing into the name "bar-Jesus".
Jim, http://www.bible-reviews.com
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